Holy crap I just read this entire discussion. Pretty intense.
To me it sounds like people are looking wayyyyyyyy too hard to find something wrong with these movies/shows. They're made for young children and families specifically so I don't think there was any intentional use of racism or sexism. I grew up watching all the Disney movies and a few of the shows that were mentioned. And I can tell you I NEVER, not once noticed anything racist or sexist in ANY movie or show. And to be honest, I still don't see anything wrong with them. I'm 19 years old and even now when I watch Disney movies/shows I honestly don't see anything racist or sexist about them. All the reasons mentioned earlier in this topic seem to be the result of someone trying really really hard to find something sexist or racist present in these movies/shows.
Well, think about it. Has there ever been a black disney princess?
More to the point, ever seen a black disney character?
Asides sun flower in fantasia.
Who was then cut out of the new version of the film and disney pretended she never existed...
Plus, how come Asians (Pakistani/ Indian) and Middle easterns are always portrayed as.... ugh, I can't even describe it.
My Nine year old cousin felt offended by it without anyone saying anything to her.
(Maybe something to do with how the Saudi law system is presented, even we aren't that nuts...)
From Cracked :
The opening musical sequence from the hugely popular 1992 animated film had to be edited due to protest from Arab-American groups for saying about the Middle East what most of us were merely thinking.
The Middle East is a barren wasteland where the justice system runs on a clear and simple limb-removal policy.
Best (Worst?) Moment:
""Where they cut off your ear if they don't like your face" is the offending line, which was changed on the DVD to the much less provocative "Where it's flat and immense and the heat is intense." Whatever. Our question: In a city full of Arabic men and women, where the hell does a midwestern-accented, white piece of cornbread like Aladdin come from?"
Plus, dumbo. I think now would be a great time to point out that the crows in dumbo were voiced by white guys trying (and failing) to do a black voice. Plus the lead was named "Jim Crow
I am sureee that is enough evidence so far.
"In this 1941 classic, Dumbo the flying elephant runs into a band of jive-talking black crows who sing, "I'd be done see'n about everything/when I see an elephant fly!"
Come on, blackbirds acting in a manner stereotypically assigned to African-Americans isn't that offensive. At least they didn't just get some white guy to do his best "black voice." Oh, really? They did? And, they called the lead character "Jim Crow?" Um, hey, look over there! It's a convincing, logical end to this argument!
Best (Worst?) Moment:
So many too choose from. The crows are very specifically depicted as poor and uneducated. They're constantly smoking; they wear pimptastic hats; and they're experts on all things "fly," so it's really a team effort contributing to the general minstrel-show feel to the whole number. (Zara Note: This relates to a horrible show we used to have in the UK called "The Black and White Minstrel show") You could pretty much pause this video (When I See An Elephant Fly
) at any second and use it as evidence in your hate-crime lawsuit against Disney.
For its time, though, the portrayal of the crows was almost progressive. The crows band together and help Dumbo learn to fly, so they're counted among the heroes of the film. Remember, this was just a couple of years after somebody introduced a bill to outlaw lynching and congress voted it down. So, you know, you take what you can get. "
I'm not saying disney should be banned, but that it should be shown with full responsibilities of parents to explain the steryotpes within the films.
P.s - The "When I see an Elephant Fly" vid, the choreographer needs to be SHOT! The dancing dosn't go with the song and they seem to change vocal pitches ever two seconds! Hormonal crows?!Happy Hearted Roustabouts
And as for sexism:
The woman never seem to be able to do ANYTHING for herself when faced with trouble (With the exception of Mulan, and even when she returned home, after saving China her family was in scorn), seem to be the mother, wife roles etc, oh, and have a high sexuality level, being coy, batting of eye lashes, flicking hair...Sexism in Disney
This persons video highlights it for you
Edited by laydee-zee92, 15 November 2008 - 03:25 PM.