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#1 Kitsune

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 08:39 PM

Because of california's budget crisis, many many.. MANY teachers are being laid off and pay checks are being cut as well..

we are having pink friday in support of those who are being pink slipped.

i was on pinkfriday09.org and my gosh there are some sad stories!
there was a couple who got a pink slip unfortunately and they had a baby last november..

whats kind of sad are the men who are unwilling to wear pink at ALL because of "humiliation of their masculinity" they asked why pink but the answer is quite obvious.. i still find it sad how some people can't just man up for a day and wear pink. its not humiliation its support. there are some guys who arent even teachers who will wear pink for what they believe the teachers deserve yet the teachers cant seem to get a grip on it..

its a sad situation though.. 7 teachers in my school may get laid off.

and plus the 20 to 1 teacher ratio for freshman english classes is taken out.. 35 freshman in one english class? and the cutting of many electives?

siigh..
i'm wearing pink tomorrow to support pink friday.

anyways whats your take?

[oops!!] can this be moved to serious discussion!?!!

Edited by Jerrister, 12 March 2009 - 08:39 PM.


#2 The Real CZ

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 06:53 AM

My take: proof socialism doesn't work.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 12:03 PM

My take: proof socialism doesn't work.


Do you even know what socialism really is? Without socialism, Americans won't have affordable education and transportation. I personally believe that there are some good aspects in socialism however, people are just too ignorant and dumb to even find out what socialism really is.(Look at Clinton's take in socialized medicine. It was supposed to make drugs affordable to Americans but noo, the general public just stated that socialism is bad.) Let's see how the country will be if schools and transportation will be privately owned. Most likely there will be monopolies and tons of corruptions just like how deregulated industries have become.

Anyhoo, back to the topic, yeh its been happening in FL too. No part time teacher can apply to Miami-Dade County Public Schools anymore; they all have to be full time. To tell you how bad it is, Governor Bush even lobbied for the Stimulus package to pass and what's funny is, he's a Republican lobbying on a Democratic bill. Then again, MDCPS is one of the largest school districts in a US so it does really really need help.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 06:22 PM

And why should people have to pay for other people's things? :)

California is one of the most socialistic states in the U.S. and has one of the worst budget problems. Eventually, you run out of other peoples' money.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 07:00 PM

Why are teachers immune to a failing economy? They need to suck it up and stop crying over everything. And the LAUSD needs to spend more time teaching. Seriously. They constantly vote down longer school days and then wonder why kids can't read in high school. They also need to stop passing stupid stuff...like how they support democracy in El Salvador! (I'm serious, they made a resolution about this!!!!). If i had a kid right now, I wouldn't be putting my kid in LAUSD, they would be going straight to anotehr school district or one of the many private schools in the area.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 07:42 PM

Moving to serious discussion. Please make sure to abid by the SD rules, thank you!

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 09:36 AM

And why should people have to pay for other people's things? ^_^

California is one of the most socialistic states in the U.S. and has one of the worst budget problems. Eventually, you run out of other peoples' money.


So would you like the US to be like countries like, Panama where there are only the Rich and Poor? No middle class? No taxes, no government regulations or laws. That will just mean monopolies, poverty(since it will also mean no minimum wage) and pollution, pretty much, a disorganized government where EVERYTHING is okay.

Okay, how can u blame the system if it only fails for a few participants? Who handles the money? the School Board. Who are in the school board? people. If the people working there are corrupt and handle money without any planning, it's California's fault why they're facing monetary problems. People should think about who they are voting for seriously. Don't blame the system just because it "fails" for California. It works on other States which has the same system but with different officers.

Edited by jacq*, 14 March 2009 - 09:40 AM.


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Posted 14 March 2009 - 09:52 AM

I don't recall ever typing out what you said. If there was no regulations, then it'd be back like it was in the 19th century. I just believe the government (at any level) should stay out as much as possible. They're overreaching on their powers.

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 01:24 PM

^ Nuff said, all I was trying to point out that in certain ways, socialism is good for the society.

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 12:53 PM

Panama is the fastest growing economy and the largest per capita consumer in Central America so their economy is doing just fine. Socialism has justified increases in education costs. I learned in economics that it's laws and government regulations (like copyright and franchises) that creates monopolies. Also, monopolies arise because there are no easy substitutes so no, not every business can easily turn into monopolies. Free markets should be preferable to socialism in almost all cases. Corruption arises far more often in socialism because competition is restricted.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 07:44 PM

It has just gotten worse for California. I just got an email about CalGrant petitions. In California, CalGrant is a big source of funding for college financial aid. Basically, California plans to cut CalGrant for good to $0. NOT KIDDING. So I was sent a petition to help stop this cut.




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