That's quite a leap of logic you're taking there. Such as it is, none of us know WHEN we will die, but we all know that we WILL die. Does the knowing of death keep us from striving to the future? If you know that your test is Monday, will you not study extra-hard over the weekend? The knowledge that we are mortal is the very driving force that makes us accomplish a said thing in a limited span of time. This being our lives.
Knowing you
can die is not the same as
knowing you
will die as
soon as you get too old to give
other people things.
Not really a leap of logic.
Of COURSE I could die even tomorrow.
But I'm not COUNTING on it. Therefore I go on.
However if I knew for sure I was dying tommorow,
Do you really think I'd care about contributing to society before I croaked?
ESPECIALLY if the very society I am contributing to
is to be the very cause of my death.Also, you're implying that I want people dead by a certain age. I did not say this -- so people will still continue to age and wither at different rates. If X ages well into 120 and continues to contribute to society, then they should carry on. If Y becomes a human vegetable at age 40, they should be killed.
Yeah great examples.
I dont know when the last time was
that you saw a 120 year old contributing to society
(or even a 120 year old at all)
Any old/ill person who can't contribute to society
Doesn't necessarily have the inability to enjoy life anymore. But you would take it away because you don't want to pay taxes
and because you apparently LOVE the idea of dying.
As for me? I see no problem in death. Why would I fear the inevitable? If given a choice between a nursing home, pooping myself, forgetting my loved ones when they visit.. I'd gladly embrace the alternative. A dignified, chosen time of death. Why must death be at the moment in which you are withered and useless? Why not embrace it gracefully, without fear and head on?
Our current, over-pampered, over sensitive, overly PC society will be the downfall of us all. The weak, ill, stupid and lame will continue to propagate, ignoring the natural laws of evolution. This may just be our path, but it is really frightening.
This isn't really about your personal distaste of being old.
Its also not about what people should and shouldn't be afraid of.
Its what people
are afraid of, being afraid of death is natural.
And most people would be terrified of becoming old, getting sick at all.
Whats the point of being "graceful" when someones about to kill you.
And "head on".... to what? To a casket? Nice.
Can you imagine a world where people are obsessed with their health to the point where they can't live comfortably because their thoughts are consumed by pushing their deadline further back? Sure, its good to look after yourself and not let yourself go and to be healthy, however with immediate death (well, murder really) as the result most people are going to take it to psychotic levels. And please don't reply with how YOU would feel. Its about society as a whole.
Being killed, murdered, thrown away,
Isn't the same as dying naturally, or dying in your sleep.
Even if you're put to sleep first, you still have to go through your last moments of life knowing you're going to be killed.
And it wouldnt happen right away.
You'd have to get evaluated.
You'd have to wait and hold your breathe
while people examine you and run tests
to make sure you're completely in the
OkayToKill zone.
Personally I find that unusually cruel.
If you'd rather be killed than live an elderly life,
Thats just fine, but that doesn't mean others wouldnt enjoy their old age.
My grandmother is unable to contribute to society,
She's too old for a job. But she has more wisdom than anyone I know,
Enjoys her old age, loves basking in the love of her children/grandchildren,
Is the happiest person I know. Intelligent as well.
Why would I take her happy life away from her
Because she can't make minimum wage?
I'm willing to bet if you put that rule into effect,
There'd be a sharp spike in suicides at the ages of 25~40.
Edited by --e n k y o r i*, 24 January 2010 - 07:40 PM.