i think she can be in the top 50, 7k-10k album sold
when the tour starts

wasent she 127 last week too?

Uh, I think this week she dropped out o_o

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127 was last week, which means the next one is this week, and there's no ranking for it, only sales. So I'm assuming she's out...

Aw man.. really? D=
#127 and then out.. extremely short chart life, I hope it can climb back up.
I searched Billboard 200, and she's not listed in it for this week: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/esearch/cha...=04%2F04%2F2009

well i'm not suprised for that.. I mean .. this week she didn't had ANY promotion , I dont know why SM don't release I did it for love MV YET .

the truth this week BoA did not existed on the US ....


im kind of dissapointed of SM because they seems to not care about this , I dont understand why she' not on the radios or on mtv, and I BET that just a little % of the people watch the "famous" MTV IGGY , she will not advance anywhere if she's still in that and not in ALL the music programs and radios!

^
I think her sickness let everything be late, like she had to cancel her WBC perf, her MV couldn't show that day

So, they put back the date of US promotion after her Japanese activities finish instead. The party on 6/4: "BEST & USA - Thank you for your support" in Japan. It means a good-bye party, right?
I think it will be the finish for BEST & USA's promotion. She will come back to the US next week, and start IDIFL single promotion, and album as well.

And the MV right now is the only one that makes people wait until the IDIFL single promotion start, right?

It's not because they don't want to promote BoA... it's because they're running out of financial resources... Just business class airfare alone for BoA and her staff is extremely high... compound that with daily travel expenses, food, shelter, and then add all the promotional expenditures they have used for MTVIggy studio performance and all that adds up very quickly... They also made a drastic mistake by focusing on just one major commercial radio station in LA when the entire SM promotional team should be spending ample time attacking many local and smaller radio stations in California as well as in NY, Chicago, Boston, Miami, Dallas, Atlanta, etc. in an effort to draw upon as many independent listeners as possible. If the major stations aren't willing to play, go for the smaller ones in order to win over their viewers instead of wasting so much time and money on one station alone...

SM is just taking their time. Maybe they're waiting for her Japan activities to be done before they start focusing their efforts in America. The MV is still in post-production and it's not like they need to hurry up anyway. They're starting from the very bottom and building a fanbase besides her old fans will take months to years.

What I don't get about the MV is that if it was supposed to be scheduled for the first viewing at the WBC game... Doesn't that mean it should've been finished editing already?

But according some "insider" information, it hasn't been released yet because it's being edited...

o_O I'm kinda confused about that... Unless, as soon as they heard from BoA's manager that she was going to cancel her performance at WBC, they stopped editing on it to do it later...

maybe BoA recorded her MV again?? o-0''

^ omg maybe her management team or staff or whoever read on forums that all the costumes are too similar, or some other criticisms and decided to change some of it o_o

^ I hope not.
The only thing major flaw I see from the preview is that you can't see her dancing clearly. She's the strongest in dancing, after all. Maybe it's just that the video is not in HQ.
It would just be more time and money wasted if they redid the MV.. like they did for EYU with its 3 versions. Honestly, bad clothing (and her outfit in IDIFL is by no means bad) really won't "make you or break you."

Yeah - and we're talking about Joseph Kahn people ! I'm not trying to praise him like a God or anything but his music videos are nearly flawless. I doubt SM would want to spend money on recording another version again.

But gah all this wait...gotta be patient!

BoA's album was great and I'm sure people would love her if given the time to listen to it. her english has also improved a lot.
What I don't like about it though, is that they made her sound robotic in parts of most songs, making them all sound like remixes.

I tried to get her album when it came out and Best Buy didnt have it. They didnt even ORDER it.

SOOOO
I was in Macy's New York, and I walked past the makeup section and heard Scream from BoA's album!!
I had to make sure it wasn't Monrose's version but I listened more carefully and knew it was BoA's. :]
So then I asked who was singing it, and those working there didn't know.. They were playing it from an Ipod, and they were like, "It's 'Scream' by BoA." I told them that she was gonna be huge. (:

So they were randomly playing it eh? I tried doing that with my temporary ipod lol. Just go to hmv and plug in one of the test-speakers and play Eat You Up loudly But I didn't work there so..meh.

Flo Rida as of now, is in American Idol performing live NOW. I can't help but say BoA should be performing with him on the remix of Eat You Up but lol, he's promoting his 2nd album right now, performing his first single from this album. *sigh* usually Idol guest artist performances sky rockets their sales in iTunes or CD sales in general. It's proven many times.

Anyone see it in Canada yet? Wal-Mart? Best Buy? HMV? Chapters/Indigo?

haha Once, I set the Apple computers to her EYU video, but some guy immediately closed the windows after I left. =_=;

It would be cool if she could perform EYU with him. :] If it was just her, people would be like, "WHO?!". xD

First English Album 'BoA' sold about 800 copies in USA this week




Credit: Uriboa

^
... =\
lol No wonder she's not on the 200 anymore.
Hopefully SM can get promo going fast. At the rate she's declining, her album won't even reach 10k, which is megamegamega flop.

Thats so sad only 800

Sobs is it really that bad? I think its partly SM's fault for not ensuring that more US stores sold her album. T.T And some fans might have bought BEST&USA over the english debut album. But well..BoA herself said that official promotions would start after album release, so theres still hope! And sales would increase when more countries get the album in stores!

Im sure the release of the full mv of IDIFL (soon I hope!) would also help in promotions.

OMG, and SM still not released the IDIFL full mv to increase the sales?!?!? moron SM!!

WELLLL

i went to scarborough town's centre best buy and hmv

hmv - didn't have it, said they were ordering
best buy - sold out, forgot to ask when they were going to stock up

also went to markville mall's best buy - sold out, didn't ask when they were gonna stock up

it was too late for me to check markville mall's hmv as the mall closed at 7pm (dam)

will go there tmr

Usually it takes time for an album to hit success. Unless of course, it's singles hit number 1 and is widely known then the album can be successful. But since BoA is a nobody and right now pretty much the majority of the fans are buying her albums, so that's why it's not high in sales. When promotion begins, if ever, we'll see how that changes.

I know as fans, we're supposed to be patient and not rush the release of the video, but SM has taken some major wrong turns with the release of "I Did It For Love" music video.

First off, it's true that it's not BoA's fault that the video hasn't been released on time. However, the fact that BoA said a couple of times in various interviews that the video should be released "at the end of March", but still has not been released when it's mid-April makes BoA look bad. SM should realize that its professionalism can and will directly reflect on BoA's professional image, and while BoA has no power over when the video gets released, SM should have taken measures to get it out on time or at least close to when they told BoA that it would be released.

Also, had it been released a week ago, that would've been excellent timing to counter the major decline in the album sales. However, I'm beginning to feel like by now, the album's sinking so quickly that the release of the video won't do major hype-up (which it could've done had it been released earlier, as I mentioned).

There was a very potential-full time (even up to about a week and a half ago) when people began to hear about BoA and her new album, and had the video been cycling on YouTube or been available on iTunes or shown a couple of times on TV, it could've worked as the effective hook in grabbing new listeners. However.... by now, most people who aren't already BoA fans have began to stop noticing any hype that's left (if there is any) from the album release...

@_@; In the end, I think SM needs to do major double-take effort now before things get even more out of control... They've already began to lose a lot of "potential full" moments T.T;;

It might be quiet right now but things are gonna pick up again.

SM ENT. Isn't doing it like BOOM BOOM BOOM full on promotions then all of a sudden it's all quiet.

It's more like SM Ent. is spreading their promotions out throughout the course of a year rather than rushing it with BoA not even knowing what's she's doing.

The thing with full on promotions is that people might get sick of her really quickly, or the promotions might back fire and can really hurt her chances.

Yeah, I think doing the whole "reveal and fade away" scheme is good, but my concern was more on SM missing critical potential-full moments... I mean, seriously, even up till a week ago, when people heard "BoA", they kinda got that whole "Oh yeah I heard she just released an album" and if they had seen the video and liked it, they could've become regular listeners...

But meh, while I think SM USA is making some bad choices, it still has Mr. Lee at its head, so hopefully he'll work his magic soon enough (Plus, who can not love BoA after seeing her? XD...)

Something just dawned on me.

I used to be a huge BoA fan a few years back.
I fell out of my asian music phase and after stumbling across an SNSD music video, I found myself looking up BoA to find she's trying to make it big here.

For two days I've been upset and hurt since I haven't heard her on the radio, and then it hit me just now.

Since she's not from a well-known record label, SM would probably have to pay handsomely to get her on every pop radio station.
She's on a couple playlists right now on a couple radio stations and she seems to be doing okay.
SM probably doesn't want to spend tons of money getting her on the radio to have her completely flop.
They've put her in a couple test markets for the time being to see if she'll be popular and they're probably going to go from there.

Coming to America from SM's viewpoint has to be both expensive and risky.
They don't want to mess this up, because they could be wasting millions of dollars just coming to the US to fail.

The best thing we can really do is to keep requesting to hear BoA on the stations she's on(in the bay area and in las vegas) and to spread the word to friends.
Maybe if we all make a creative effort(Everyone collab to request her during rush hour on the same radio station?) to get her on different radio stations and make it sound like we were in las vegas or the bay area for spring break(it was less than a couple weeks ago) and we want to hear it again, then it will happen that way.

It's interesting that you brought SM's finances up.

I think it's really interesting because for a while, SM was using the money that BoA & TVXQ brought in to promote and support groups like Girls' Generation or Super Junior, but now it's going the opposite way ~ money brought in by Girls' Generation and Super Junior (off of their two recent hits, "Gee" and "Sorry Sorry") to promote BoA. Of course, TVXQ is always a cash cow, no matter when and where (although most of their Japanese incomes goes into a large split towards AVEX I'm sure).

Hopefully, all of SM's current artists bringing in the cash from Asia will be enough to support BoA's (expensive) American project.

Hahah yeah thats true, but apart from BoA and Jang Ri In, the rest of all SM artists are groups, thats why they also spend a lot of money in terms of allowances and travel and what not. Even if BoA's american debut is expensive, she is still only one person bringing in album sales compared to a whole group bringing in the same amount of album sales. Thus, especially since she has been with SM for the longest, helping SM earn the highest amount of money/person over the years, I say she deserves to be spent upon. Furthermore, the american debut is like BoA's dream, its the least that LSM would help her fulfill (not forgetting that she is his favourite gal. ^^) He will be devasted if BoA leaves SM like how shinhwa and ftts did, so at least give BoA some reason to renew her contract with SM every time it expires yeah? Other korean managements would jump any chance to get BoA on board their ship. So Im sure LSM knows the value of BoA and treasures her alot. He just needs better managers for BoA who are able to plan the finances properly and come up with effective promotion plans, at the same time observing and adapting to the changing demands of the music industry.

What is SM waiting for anyways, Let the MV be released already. it will help a lot

That's SO true.

If BoA left Sm Ent. other companies will be out for her like sharks.

I think BoA's one of the last Old SM Town, and currently I think she's like the last active Korean legendary artist xD.

Shinwha is gone, FTTS is doing some activities but I don't think they are as big as they used to be.

But here is BoA, she's like a over charged with tons of work and she's still pretty prominent even in Korea,.

Even if BoA's not active in Korea she still earns more than the big artist like Big Bang or Wonder Girls.

When you talk about J-pop or K-pop, BoA will always be mentioned.

AGREED! In fact, she is the only one left from old SM town, apart from kangta that is, but he is in the army now..no more shinhwa, ftts, hot, ses..and she has been with SM ever since they started this sm town collaboration thing so she has been in all sm town mvs. ^^ But I wouldnt say she is still "pretty prominent" in korea, because she is VERY prominent in korea. Every korean is really proud of her because she has always been the female icon of korea (considering rain the male counterpart lol) and news stations always swarm to her whenever she returns to korea. Even KBS may ban SM artists, but they have never dared to ban BoA. Being given the honour of closing the sbs concert last year also shows how respected she is by sbs because that honour is supposedly given to the most important artist attending the event. (She always opens or closes these concerts also.)

BoA is really the legend of kpop, she is the reason why so many new kpop artists like suju, snsd and wg wanted to become singers. They have all been her fans since her no.1 era lol. The impact she has had on kpop is really no joke, and even if she is not in korea, she will never be forgotten, regardless of how many new artists start mushrooming out, venturing into japan and america to follow BoA's footsteps. She has always been the pioneer in everything, breaking the japanese and american market. And she herself said she wants to pave the way for her juniors. Now, this is a legend who never dies and deserves respect as the queen of kpop.

Bottomline: it's quite obvious that SM is "IN THE RED" so to speak with regards to the expenses used toward her MV's, album production, songs, travel, etc. that it has taken quite a toll on their ability to finance promotions... The best they can hope for is to try and supplement smaller radio stations across the US with her singles if they are willing to add her to the daily playlist cycle. There isn't really much the video can do for her now as most debut single MV's are released several weeks to a month PRIOR to the albums release in order to garner attention. Most people have already listened to IDIFL so many times that adding a video won't really draw the same level of attention as it would before.... They have already overspent on the producers for the album and the heavy weight publicity that comes along with such names has not rubbed-off upon the album's sales or marketing whatsoever.

I want to bring up another thing to the table, and although it does sound a little rude, it kind of is the truth.
Most people have basic cable(like 63 channels or something like that?)
That leaves them all with Disney Channel, MTV, VH1, and BET as possible music channels.
Disney only plays Jonas Brothers and Hannah Montana or whatever Disney things they have going on.
TRL is gone. MTV doesn't play music videos anymore... they play snippets during show credits, and if VH1 still does, they don't play a lot of them.
106 and Park on BET is the only thing I know of that plays music videos.

What is this all supposed to prove?
Since they're not all over TV, nobody cares all that much about music videos anymore.
I mean WE obviously care about BoA's MVs because we're fans.
But where are we going to watch them? MTV? HAH!
If people want to see an MV, they have to look them up on the net now.
I'm not about to run off and look up some Lil Wayne MV on youtube.
Honestly, I don't really care.
Nobody I know goes around talking about the new music video for so and so anymore like they used to.

So spending tons of money on MVs that nobody will see is pretty much a waste.
And personally, I find whining about an MV being released to be a waste of time as well.

In all honesty, what BoA really needs is some Exposure on a Late Nite Show like Conan or Leto and radio time.
She needs exposure to people, lots of them, and a large range of them.
If she got on some Late Nite Shows, she would have a chance to be seen in person. She'd have a chance to perform on television instead of trying to air a music video nobody will see. She'll also have a chance to explain her background and things such as her success in Asia and her experiences living in the USA to a very wide audience of people.

Various TV shows talk about what happened on Late Nite Shows the day before, and that will help her as well.


Another thing that could possibly help is getting her music into malls where people shop.
There's been more than one time where I've stepped into Nordstroms and just had to ask what they were playing at the MAC counter.
Getting a techno mix of her song into Abercrombie would be helpful as well. When I worked there I used to find songs I liked all the time and I'd buy the original of the song.
American Eagle and Forever 21 would be nice as well. Anything in general that young people shop at.

SM is obviously working on radio time, so I'm not going to go into that.

There's so many better marketing decisions to make rather than putting all their focus into a music video. Granted, a music video is pretty much required for every hit, it's not that important.

I just lost hope in the mv ever coming out that I dont even care about that anymore LOL to be quite honest =P
oh well

I still think SM is going into the wrong direction, all i hear from BoA's website are cricket's chirping

butwhatever it's their business.

Still love BoA <3

I'll be honest and say that I don't care anymore about her making it big in the US. In my opinion, she should've tried to break in the European Market as they seem more 'open-minded' towards the newcomers and then try with the US. Doing it first is a bigger challenge, maybe a bit too big at the moment.

True. I would add FUSE to that list. Cause now for its BET and FUSE. FUSE pretty much is the last of the only music video playing channels out there. If you get it atleast.

I wouldnt rule out The N either.

I think the majority of the concerns that the fans here have over the video isn't that it needs to be released or promoted ~ rather, it's that they told BoA to say on interviews that it will be released at "the end of March", and then decided to hold it off when it's nearly mid-April.

At least for me, that's the biggest concern ~ I mean yeah, it'd be nice to have the full length video available to watch right now, but my biggest jab over that is that it's a point against BoA's professional image ~ artists who say that something will be released in an interview are basically promising a deadline. And, if by some circumstances, it can't be made, then there should be word for it. I think SM should've provided some information on why the release wasn't done on time, rather than playing the silent game.

But also, regardless of whether the video will make an impact in promoting BoA or not, it would be strange for her to go on one of those shows without a video having done. When artists go on those shows to perform, they usually cycle clips of the video and whatnot. I think SM needs to do a lot of things: get the video released, get the album more physically available in stores, get BoA acquainted with more DJ's at various radio stations, and eventually get her on one of those shows like 'Ellen' to perform.

But as korniceman is nicely pointing out, SM is not a major label, so the funds are being drained for sure. x_x; Let's all wish for the cash to keep on coming in for SM from all the other artists they're running.

Fuse and The N are not on basic cable packages. As the poster that you're quoting mentioned, she's only including channels that are on a basic cable plan. There are tons of channels like Fuse and The N that show music videos, like, MTV2 and Much Music [or whatever it's called], but many people are not subscribed to the extra channels.

That said, VH1 has a top 20 countdown sometime in the morning and a show called "Jump Start" that usually plays before that - Both of which are all about music videos. They also have something called "Nocturnal State," which varies as far as scheduling is concerned, but it typically airs between 2 and 6AM, sometimes for the whole night. It will be on tomorrow morning at 4AM for one hour, before it shifts to "Jump Start" from 5 until 10AM.

No I got that. Which is why I said if you get them atleast. If you dont then you dont count them obviously...as I mentioned.

For the majority of us in America atleast you would have more than the basic channels...I dont have cable so I wouldnt know anymore. I stick to Satellite.

Fuse isn't basic cable.
I have basic cable and I don't have fuse.
I'm talking basic cable. If you're lucky enough to afford extended-basic in this economy, I'd be talking about fuse too... but most people have Basic, which is why I left fuse out of the picture.

I'm surprised that Fuse hasn't played BoA... they have a show for international music vids don't they? I swear I watched that show once and that's how I found out about Elemeno P..(band from new zealand)
And I've never seen the N play MVs... >.>; I thought you meant nickelodeon. xD

Also... Getting some paid ads for BoA on Pandora.com would be a HUGE benefit.
I recently found out that well over 2/3s of the kids in one of my lecture classes(I'm a college kid) with over 300 people in it use pandora to find new music that they like.
You can't pay Pandora to play your song, but you can pay Pandora to advertise for you.
I wonder if her music has even been added to Pandora's database.

The talk about SM running out of money to spend on BoA has been brought up several times.. I'm surprised no one has pointed out that they're in deficit (at least, I don't remember anyone pointing it out).



So I wonder how much more they can spend on her.. =( As Korniceman pointed out, they've spent way too much on things that really weren't needed all that much when they could have used it for promoting her.
And unless she becomes a HUGE hit, her album will only be adding to the deficit.

Ow... Thanks for pointing that out, we all do need a reality check sometimes XD
Yeah, from most of the posts, I think everyone here were kind of in a train of thought that SM is this indestructible magic-working company that will make everything go right... But I guess that's not the reality right now for SM X_x;;

very true they did spen a lot on what they didnt need like her release partys that were a flunk

Yeah I know about SM's deficit also. But that was only for last year, with increased spending on BoA's american debut and shinee's debut at the same time. Not forgetting all the expenses on the other groups, but they were still the top grossing entertainment company in korea. So this deficit is probably just the investment stage and profits will only start rolling in once these investments pay off. So yeah, SM may be in the red for now, but LSM wont let it be in the red for the long term lol (he's too crazy over money anw). They just have to be more careful about where they spend the money on now, looking for the most effective promotions at the lowest cost possible. I just hope they dont make BoA fork out money from her pocket. Hahah but of course they wont do that lol. XD

xD
She could sue if they did that.
They advertise on their site that if they take you on that all expenses are covered by SM Entertainment.
Her contract probably says something about it too.

Actually, Fuse is. We're in a small, rural community in the Heartland, and even we get FUSE...and we don't even get MTV or VH-1.