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korniceman3000
QUOTE (Thetallestbuildingever @ Apr 13 2009, 04:38 PM) *
xD
She could sue if they did that.
They advertise on their site that if they take you on that all expenses are covered by SM Entertainment.
Her contract probably says something about it too.


All expenses are covered by SM... In the form of an advancement (^__^)... This means the artist will have to pay back every single penny that was utilized to make them a star before they see a single dime in the form of royalties. Sadly, BoA does not have the right to sue because all these stipulations are clearly spelled out in ALL contracts between the label and the artists. This is standard procedure dry.gif . Most artists are given a 10% royalties stake AFTER EXPENSE DEDUCTIONS with the label keeping 90% of the overall royalties after they recover whatever investment spent on the album production, MV's and promotions, etc. Until the artist is capable of providing a full return on such an investment, it is highly unlikely that they will be making any money and will have to rely on "personal support" (a small amt of money funded by the label to cover daily expenses, cost of living, healthcare, etc. that will not be recovered).... As a result, many artists tour on a regular basis to earn an income (this income is not recovered by the labels. Only tour support is re-paid to the labels. Everything else is kept by the artist after deductions)
britified
QUOTE (korniceman3000 @ Apr 13 2009, 11:00 AM) *
All expenses are covered by SM... In the form of an advancement (^__^)... This means the artist will have to pay back every single penny that was utilized to make them a star before they see a single dime in the form of royalties. Sadly, BoA does not have the right to sue because all these stipulations are clearly spelled out in ALL contracts between the label and the artists. This is standard procedure dry.gif . Most artists are given a 10% royalties stake AFTER EXPENSE DEDUCTIONS with the label keeping 90% of the overall royalties after they recover whatever investment spent on the album production, MV's and promotions, etc. Until the artist is capable of providing a full return on such an investment, it is highly unlikely that they will be making any money and will have to rely on "personal support" (a small amt of money funded by the label to cover daily expenses, cost of living, healthcare, etc. that will not be recovered).... As a result, many artists tour on a regular basis to earn an income (this income is not recovered by the labels. Only tour support is re-paid to the labels. Everything else is kept by the artist after deductions)


This all makes sense, that's why artists like Britney tour. So far on her first 10 dates of the Circus tour alone she has grossed $24 million. She has 46 dates total and is still thinking about adding additional European, Australian and Asian tour dates. A lot of people here think BoA's chances for success will improve if she tours... in reality though, even if BoA toured in the US she would probably stick to only major cities... and even then she wouldn't be playing large arenas like Britney. She would most likely be doing House of Blues or something like The Wiltern in LA... capacities of 500-1000 vs. the arena's that Brit are playing which have capacities of 20,000+ people. I mean even "big acts" like Lady GaGa, Katy Perry are only doing small venues like The Wiltern. Taylor Swift... arguably the best selling artist the past 6 months is only doing 2 shows in California and only one is in something as big as Staples. Britney is doing 6... 4 in So Cal alone. And when it comes down to it... at this point, the only people who are going to pay to see BoA are people who are already her fans.
Mashimaro-san
I think it's safe to say that BoA has quite a lot of money on her pocket.

BoA practically does a tour every single year and they are always sold out.

Except for specials though, like the Live X-Mas Special had few ppl :S.

But then, who would go on a concert at X-mas Eve? I'd rather sleep and wait for my presents.
bokachu
QUOTE (Mashimaro-san @ Apr 14 2009, 05:46 AM) *
I think it's safe to say that BoA has quite a lot of money on her pocket.

BoA practically does a tour every single year and they are always sold out.

Except for specials though, like the Live X-Mas Special had few ppl :S.

But then, who would go on a concert at X-mas Eve? I'd rather sleep and wait for my presents.



Haha, you are wrong
Actually, the live x-mas or the live 20th birthday, there were always like 2000+ tickets and they were all sold out. They are always mini-concerts, not Arena tour laugh.gif
korniceman3000
QUOTE (Mashimaro-san @ Apr 14 2009, 06:46 AM) *
I think it's safe to say that BoA has quite a lot of money on her pocket.
BoA practically does a tour every single year and they are always sold out.
Except for specials though, like the Live X-Mas Special had few ppl :S.


That may be true but she doesn't earn nearly as much as many are led to believe. Unlike many Asian recording artists, American and European performers have external touring contracts with outside promoters and organizations such as Live Nation, Ticket Master, etc. These contracts are not tied into the artist/label contracts they signed when first distributed by the record labels. Each touring contract is between the promoting agency, the performing artist, the tour manager, and publicist/booking agent responsible for assembling the tour dates, locations, etc. and is completely independent from the record labels. These people are hired by the artists themselves and are not part of the record label they are signed under so all service fees are between the artist and the aformentioned service providers. (However, newcomer recording artists receive tour support from the labels to get them started for touring. Tour support is financing by the record label to help the artist organize and schedule tour dates, performances, and set up session instrumentalists for the duration of the tour. This amt will be paid back to the labels as well as a small percentage of the revenue generated by the artist.)

On the other hand, many Asian recording artists have concerts/tours tied into their contracts. In BoA's case, Avex is the primary organization and agency responsible for booking and promoting all BoA's Japanese tour activities. These are directly linked with the royalty percentages that she receives via album/single sales, etc. As a result, her royalty percentage is deemed as a whole package. She will receive a specified percentage of royalties from all NET album/single/DVD sales as well as a percentage of NET revenue earned via tour duties AFTER all expenses and deductions are procurred. Because BoA is signed under Avex and Avex acts as her record label, distributor, publicist, management agency, etc. all expenses for those duties must be paid off before BoA will be able to receive any royalties from her sales. If expenses exceed the revenue generated, they will be carried over into the next series of projects until the label is able to see profits. Only then will the artist begin receiving the royalty percentages they are due. However, these terms can be re-negotiated depending upon her sales and the revenue she generates. The label also reserves the right to drop the artist after a series of poor album sales...
detechsion
QUOTE (Junichiro @ Apr 11 2009, 07:01 PM) *
I know as fans, we're supposed to be patient and not rush the release of the video, but SM has taken some major wrong turns with the release of "I Did It For Love" music video.

First off, it's true that it's not BoA's fault that the video hasn't been released on time. However, the fact that BoA said a couple of times in various interviews that the video should be released "at the end of March", but still has not been released when it's mid-April makes BoA look bad. SM should realize that its professionalism can and will directly reflect on BoA's professional image, and while BoA has no power over when the video gets released, SM should have taken measures to get it out on time or at least close to when they told BoA that it would be released.

Also, had it been released a week ago, that would've been excellent timing to counter the major decline in the album sales. However, I'm beginning to feel like by now, the album's sinking so quickly that the release of the video won't do major hype-up (which it could've done had it been released earlier, as I mentioned).

There was a very potential-full time (even up to about a week and a half ago) when people began to hear about BoA and her new album, and had the video been cycling on YouTube or been available on iTunes or shown a couple of times on TV, it could've worked as the effective hook in grabbing new listeners. However.... by now, most people who aren't already BoA fans have began to stop noticing any hype that's left (if there is any) from the album release...

@_@; In the end, I think SM needs to do major double-take effort now before things get even more out of control... They've already began to lose a lot of "potential full" moments T.T;;


Tomorrow is the 15th of April and this would be consider mid-April right? If I don't get to see the full IDIFL MV, it's gonna be another day of disappointment and sadness T_T
Junichiro
QUOTE (detechsion @ Apr 14 2009, 09:50 PM) *
Tomorrow is the 15th of April and this would be consider mid-April right? If I don't get to see the full IDIFL MV, it's gonna be another day of disappointment and sadness T_T


Haha, I think a lot of people are with you on that. I've been checking every single day since the end of March, hoping every time that it will have been uploaded. But, I don't think we should expect much, even though technically it should be "any day" now... (Or who knows, maybe something went terribly wrong with it @_@ I don't know...)
BoAFriend
To be honest, I already gave up w/ the whole USA thing. I know it sounds extremely narrow-minded, ignorant, whatever you want to call it....but at this point in time, with NO new promotion or MV *cough cough*, SM is not going to be able to boost her album sales or throw her back into the spotlight.

And I doubt SM was "editing" the "IDIFL" MV for the past month....the song is like 3 mins something. Editing an MV DOES NOT take that damn long. Something's holding them back from the release of the MV and I'd really like to know what the reason is
vuong22
QUOTE (BoAFriend @ Apr 15 2009, 03:43 AM) *
To be honest, I already gave up w/ the whole USA thing. I know it sounds extremely narrow-minded, ignorant, whatever you want to call it....but at this point in time, with NO new promotion or MV *cough cough*, SM is not going to be able to boost her album sales or throw her back into the spotlight.

And I doubt SM was "editing" the "IDIFL" MV for the past month....the song is like 3 mins something. Editing an MV DOES NOT take that damn long. Something's holding them back from the release of the MV and I'd really like to know what the reason is

I sill have hope for it but is starting to fade and i think the reason is they losing money with the usless promotions
anime811
Am I the only one who thinks they are still going to promote but are just holding
everything off until she's finished her activites in Japan? D:
I know she had a few concerts and appearances to make in Japan recently so ^^
That and she's been in pretty bad shape with all the flying and jetlag.
I would think it would make more sense to release the MV while she's
promoting in the US as well so it'll possibly double the impact.
And obviously, she can't just ditch all activity in Japan since she has
a contract with AVEX and needs to abide by those expectations. Plus,
she needs to keep up her popularity somewhat over in Japan as well.
That and I highly doubt they'll just ditch the MV and not release it sleep.gif.
They spent quite a bit of money on it so why not release it ?


But then again, this is just a possibility XD So I'm not saying its factual in anyway. Simply
my speculation.
Shuichi Rin
QUOTE (anime811 @ Apr 15 2009, 11:42 AM) *
Am I the only one who thinks they are still going to promote but are just holding
everything off until she's finished her activites in Japan? D:
I know she had a few concerts and appearances to make in Japan recently so ^^
That and she's been in pretty bad shape with all the flying and jetlag.
I would think it would make more sense to release the MV while she's
promoting in the US as well so it'll possibly double the impact.
And obviously, she can't just ditch all activity in Japan since she has
a contract with AVEX and needs to abide by those expectations. Plus,
she needs to keep up her popularity somewhat over in Japan as well.
That and I highly doubt they'll just ditch the MV and not release it sleep.gif.
They spent quite a bit of money on it so why not release it ?


But then again, this is just a possibility XD So I'm not saying its factual in anyway. Simply
my speculation.


I think you are right. But don't forget that BoA needs time to rest. remember what happened last month because of all of her going back and forth from america to japan? That is'nt good, a healthy BoA is a good BoA for america! as soon as she is rested up and done with promoting in japan, she will come back here and do lots of promotion! (if SM has enough money, hopefully.)
MissBoAngel
unfortunately, BoA didn't reached the top 100 Canadian album chart this week.
Hopefully next week when all the stores receive their backorders .
:/
Kwcty6888
^ Erm. I think you mean she DIDN'T. o___o You don't mean unfortunately she DID right? D:
MissBoAngel
^ opps, yeah i meant she didn't tongue.gif
sorry, i edited my post now smile.gif
4761922860
QUOTE (anime811 @ Apr 15 2009, 12:42 PM) *
Am I the only one who thinks they are still going to promote but are just holding
everything off until she's finished her activites in Japan? D:
I know she had a few concerts and appearances to make in Japan recently so ^^
That and she's been in pretty bad shape with all the flying and jetlag.
I would think it would make more sense to release the MV while she's
promoting in the US as well so it'll possibly double the impact.
And obviously, she can't just ditch all activity in Japan since she has
a contract with AVEX and needs to abide by those expectations. Plus,
she needs to keep up her popularity somewhat over in Japan as well.
That and I highly doubt they'll just ditch the MV and not release it sleep.gif.
They spent quite a bit of money on it so why not release it ?


But then again, this is just a possibility XD So I'm not saying its factual in anyway. Simply
my speculation.

That's a very good idea. For the most effective promotion, BoA will need to stay in America and not fly back and forth to Japan.

QUOTE (MissBoAngel @ Apr 16 2009, 04:44 PM) *
unfortunately, BoA didn't reached the top 100 Canadian album chart this week.
Hopefully next week when all the stores receive their backorders .
:/

Damn confused.gif
The HMV at Markville mall told me that they're ordering THREE copies of this album
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I reserved a copy for myself, but f***, three copies is....
MangoArmy
I thought you guys might enjoy this...
This is the release book used in Canada by BoA's Canadian distributor Fantana North:
http://www.fontananorth.com/pdfs/FN00075.pdf (go to page 19)
MomoYome
For US residents...

IDIFL Ringtones are available. smile.gif Just got the update from the fanlist I signed up for on my cell. I don't know if it's any of the ringtone stores yet, but if you text BoA20A to 30303 you can get both ringtone and ringback tone. biggrin.gif
NikuZ
Amazing Thread!! =]
anime811
This is slightly random but yesterday, I was passing by Aldo's Accesories
and they were playing a song from her album. I think it was
Hypnotic Dancefloor (for some really odd reason, i cant remember at the moment although
it was only yesterday) I wonder if they were playing her whole album or if it was just random huh.gif
Anyhow, good to hear her songs around Tdot in stores smile.gif
alsrudtj124
For Calgarians! There are a LOT of BoA CDs at Chinook! They have at least five the last time I went there and bought one!
Kwcty6888
So today, I went to Best Buy to pick up a present for a friend, and while I was there, I thought I'd check to see if there were any BoA albums. I checked the first time but didn't find any, but I checked again, and I found it! It was like a few tabs behind another CD.. So I brought them forward in the front biggrin.gif There were two, but I was kinda surprised the stores still supplied them.. especially since her promotions have slowed down. o.o Hopefully people are still buying! biggrin.gif
detechsion
Wow, a few days ago, BoA's MV for IDIFL only reached over 200K. Today I saw that it had 300K!!! Must be more attention from the news of performing in the SF parade!!! thumbsup.gif
toto101
QUOTE (detechsion @ Jun 16 2009, 09:12 PM) *
Wow, a few days ago, BoA's MV for IDIFL only reached over 200K. Today I saw that it had 300K!!! Must be more attention from the news of performing in the SF parade!!! thumbsup.gif


oh thats crazy good news!!! a good sign i hope!!! she needs to do more performances for the gays !
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