anime811
Mar 21 2009, 07:15 PM
I actually am quite happy with the results so far
considering how little promotion has taken place.
I think SM might also be doing it slowly so it would be giving
BoA time to get comfortable with the industry here (well and the language) while
giving time for the western population to get used to her as well. If SM were just to
shove her in people's faces at once, many probably wouldn't give her a chance. Kinda like
slowly easing her in, so people have more time to get used to the idea of an "asian" artist.
At the same time, they have the time to examine what songs are generally very well
received compared to others while being able to get a better idea of how certain titles would do short term,
and long term. (E.g. EYU may be a good song short-term, but long-term it may be less well received.) I think
this is important as once BoA has caught people's attention, she needs to act fast in putting forth material
that will keep them interested which, by having an album already released, gives her that ability for both
quality and speed. She wont need to sacrifice either and be able to grasp the opportunity well. (So basically
she wont be releasing a so-so song in hopes of reaching a certain deadline or she won't wait forever in order just to release
a very good song) Or else, people will either lose interest or will come to forget about her. If she releases
material that disinterests them, they lose heart and will just move on to other artists/music.
But yeah, I'm gonna go around the stores here in Toronto in hopes of finding the album when its released in Canada.
All you other Canadian BJJ members should go run around and ask. xD The more the better since 10 people
asking one store is better then just one person asking 10 stores xD
Edit: Spelling lmfao.
Mister_Moon_
Mar 21 2009, 07:21 PM
QUOTE (gree.TVXQnakk. @ Mar 21 2009, 10:51 PM)

OT
but, Hmmm I wish they would use BoA's "Obsessed" for Beyonce's new movie coming out 'OBSESSED' because that movie looks great and I think it would be kind of cool and good for her track to be on a movie.
Well.. it may not be possible anymore.. they have already finished filming it. I think that the soundtrack has already been chosen too.
My dream is to have BoA and Bey doing something together one day <3
scott_o_k
Mar 21 2009, 09:54 PM
To those frustrated with the marketing of the album, keep in mind one thing to help keep the situation in perspective: in the US,
Boa is essentially on an independent label. It's admittedly bizarre and not quite accurate to call her an indie artist, but since SM has no relation with the major western entertainment companies like Universal or Time Warner, it's the closest description we have.
The #1 reason she isn't getting played on radio is because her singles (as far as I know) never had adds dates to any formats. An adds date is the announced date that the label would like radio stations in that format to start adding a song to their playlists. Though stations can play whatever they like as long as they have permission or pay royalties (stations will often test or preview songs on-air prior to the adds date), the adds date is pretty much a song's release date.
Here's FMQB's list of upcoming songs going for adds to Pop radio:
http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=16691As far as radio stations are concerned, "Eat You Up" and "I Did it For Love" aren't "out." Now, why didn't these songs have adds dates? Well, it either means that SM decided not to bother trying to garner radio play at all (which I think is unlikely considering Boa was doing radio interviews), or for whatever reason they just weren't able to. That begs the question of what exactly is involved in establishing a song's add date, and that I simply don't know.
supershinee
Mar 22 2009, 05:30 AM
QUOTE (anime811 @ Mar 21 2009, 11:15 PM)

But yeah, I'm gonna go around the stores here in Toronto in hopes of finding the album when its released in Canada.
All you other Canadian BJJ members should go run around and ask. xD The more the better since 10 people
asking one store is better then just one person asking 10 stores xD
Hold it right there.
The album is going to be released in Canada on Tuesday, April 7th. AFAIK, HMV will carry it.
I'm going to check Future Shop next week to see if they'll carry it (there's this sign that lists future releases).
fiferdodo
Mar 22 2009, 08:19 AM
Does anybody know what BoA has planned after the Forever21 signing and the WBC Game Finals performance?
Ayaki
Mar 22 2009, 09:42 AM
QUOTE (fiferdodo @ Mar 22 2009, 08:19 AM)

Does anybody know what BoA has planned after the Forever21 signing and the WBC Game Finals performance?
She kinda talks about it in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1SBLt6SF1ISomething about her plans to get it on radio.
She seems really happy in this one

.
Joshorty
Mar 22 2009, 11:07 AM
QUOTE (scott_o_k @ Mar 22 2009, 01:54 AM)

To those frustrated with the marketing of the album, keep in mind one thing to help keep the situation in perspective: in the US,
Boa is essentially on an independent label. It's admittedly bizarre and not quite accurate to call her an indie artist, but since SM has no relation with the major western entertainment companies like Universal or Time Warner, it's the closest description we have.
The #1 reason she isn't getting played on radio is because her singles (as far as I know) never had adds dates to any formats. An adds date is the announced date that the label would like radio stations in that format to start adding a song to their playlists. Though stations can play whatever they like as long as they have permission or pay royalties (stations will often test or preview songs on-air prior to the adds date), the adds date is pretty much a song's release date.
Here's FMQB's list of upcoming songs going for adds to Pop radio:
http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=16691As far as radio stations are concerned, "Eat You Up" and "I Did it For Love" aren't "out." Now, why didn't these songs have adds dates? Well, it either means that SM decided not to bother trying to garner radio play at all (which I think is unlikely considering Boa was doing radio interviews), or for whatever reason they just weren't able to. That begs the question of what exactly is involved in establishing a song's add date, and that I simply don't know.
O man that is so so true... She technically would be an indie artist and for sure we all know that's not how she should be classified...is this a no wonder as to why Eat You Up never got a radio airplay release date?? I've been checking at FMQB site somewhat-all the time and I haven't seen BoA there since Eat You Up was released, which I expected to be added there. SM should really be doing that. I hope through the radio tour, SM will do that. At least we have our requests forms to go but I really hope SM does go for add dates for these 2 singles if not only one.
detechsion
Mar 22 2009, 11:41 AM
QUOTE (Joshorty @ Mar 22 2009, 12:07 PM)

O man that is so so true... She technically would be an indie artist and for sure we all know that's not how she should be classified...is this a no wonder as to why Eat You Up never got a radio airplay release date?? I've been checking at FMQB site somewhat-all the time and I haven't seen BoA there since Eat You Up was released, which I expected to be added there. SM should really be doing that. I hope through the radio tour, SM will do that. At least we have our requests forms to go but I really hope SM does go for add dates for these 2 singles if not only one.
That explains why I can't hear IDIFL on KIISfm even though I called in! My little sister and I called and the request taker was like "It's going to be a few days until we can put her song on the radio." I assumed they were just racist or against new artist from another country entering in the US market but I was wrong. So now someone should contact SM to get there approval to play her songs in the radio! I really want to hear it ~.~
Kentjr
Mar 22 2009, 04:15 PM
QUOTE (detechsion @ Mar 22 2009, 12:41 PM)

That explains why I can't hear IDIFL on KIISfm even though I called in! My little sister and I called and the request taker was like "It's going to be a few days until we can put her song on the radio." I assumed they were just racist or against new artist from another country entering in the US market but I was wrong. So now someone should contact SM to get there approval to play her songs in the radio! I really want to hear it ~.~
Rawr, that freaking sucks :/ They really need to start playing her songs. SM needs to do stuff!
toto101
Mar 22 2009, 08:19 PM
this is makin me mad why isnt her songs going for adds :/
Zap
Mar 22 2009, 09:32 PM
I checked the
Borders website and it shows that they have the CD in stock at my local store! So I'm gonna head on over there tomorrow and see!
heygingersnap
Mar 22 2009, 10:07 PM
i think this goes here.
http://sidewalkstv.com/blog/blog1.php/2009...ns-now-availablpart 1 of the new sidewalks tv interview.
Joshorty
Mar 22 2009, 10:54 PM
^Sweet! Gonna check that out!
---------
I think it's needless to say this but I can now confirm that
YesAsia's BoA US album does NOT contribute to Billboard.
QUOTE
"Upon checked, the "BoA (US Version)" sold in YesAsia.com will not contribute to the US Billboard chart.
I hope this discourages others to buy from Amazon otherwise I can really understand why people would buy from there....
QUOTE (Zap @ Mar 23 2009, 01:32 AM)

I checked the
Borders website and it shows that they have the CD in stock at my local store! So I'm gonna head on over there tomorrow and see!
Glad to hear it

Man I can only imagine if your patience is wearing thin but doesn't sound like it haha.
ZizzyGal
Mar 22 2009, 11:26 PM
QUOTE (heygingersnap @ Mar 23 2009, 02:07 AM)

i think this goes here.
http://sidewalkstv.com/blog/blog1.php/2009...ns-now-availablpart 1 of the new sidewalks tv interview.

sooo friggin cute lol
reporter: intense BoA
BoA: thats true i am
lol
cant w8 till it hits canadian shelves
a548
Mar 23 2009, 08:05 AM
QUOTE (Joshorty @ Mar 22 2009, 10:54 PM)

I think it's needless to say this but I can now confirm that YesAsia's BoA US album does NOT contribute to Billboard.
I hope this discourages others to buy from Amazon otherwise I can really understand why people would buy from there....
Sales from YesAsia don't count but sales from Amazon.com do count towards the Billboard charts. That's why BoA's team has been pushing for people to buy from Amazon.
Joshorty
Mar 23 2009, 10:24 AM
I really love that team of Sidwalks. Especially the reporter Christina
QUOTE (a548 @ Mar 23 2009, 12:05 PM)

Sales from YesAsia don't count but sales from Amazon.com do count towards the Billboard charts. That's why BoA's team has been pushing for people to buy from Amazon.
I know. This is why I advised people to go buy from Amazon instead
ha1212y
Mar 23 2009, 10:43 AM
Where is the amazon sales update from yesterday and today?? PLease keep updating this thread!! ^^
britified
Mar 23 2009, 01:06 PM
Even with the weak sales week... with about 70% of this past week's sales tallied, BoA is not in the top 50 albums.
top 1/2 of the charts:

bottom 1/2 of the charts:
bokachu
Mar 23 2009, 01:11 PM
^
Credit, pls? Where did u see it?
I want to check it as well
Kwcty6888
Mar 23 2009, 01:13 PM
QUOTE (britified @ Mar 23 2009, 05:06 PM)

Even with the weak sales week... with about 70% of this past week's sales tallied, BoA is not in the top 50 albums.
top 1/2 of the charts:
http://i41.tinypic.com/4qjwvm.pngbottom 1/2 of the charts:
http://i43.tinypic.com/212fiw2.pngIt's rather depressing that BoA didn't even get 4,225 album sales... T_T
chancism
Mar 23 2009, 01:25 PM
BoA is on ESPN tonight, right!? What time?

The latest interview was really cute. She's getting better at English!
Kwcty6888
Mar 23 2009, 01:32 PM
QUOTE (chancism @ Mar 23 2009, 05:25 PM)

BoA is on ESPN tonight, right!? What time?

The latest interview was really cute. She's getting better at English!
I think it was more natural, but she still seemed tired

LOL I think it's so funny she went to Dave & Busters with Se7en xD
emach
Mar 23 2009, 01:35 PM
QUOTE
Even with the weak sales week... with about 70% of this past week's sales tallied, BoA is not in the top 50 albums.
It's not really surprising, she's still unknown and most stores don't even carry her album. I'm curious does this also count internet album downloads? Like itunes?
Can you tell us how they get their figures? Thanks.
Mister_Moon_
Mar 23 2009, 01:39 PM
QUOTE (bokachu @ Mar 23 2009, 06:11 PM)

^
Credit, pls? Where did u see it?
I want to check it as well
From what i know, some ppl see at HitsDailyDouble.com .. But i think it's available on AllAccess too.. o_õ
Tomorrow the Top 200 will be out, i hope that she's in it, at least. x_x I wonder how it'll be on Canadian Charts too.
Xcellerator
Mar 23 2009, 01:41 PM
She isn't even in the top 50 overall on Amazon anymore.

#55 Overall
#33 in Rock
#46 in Pop
Joshorty
Mar 23 2009, 02:10 PM
We fans did all we could and we could only do so much. Honestly it's no surprise. The one of the only negative thingsabout this is telling people who don't understand why her sales are low.
MOTOWAYohsixfive
Mar 23 2009, 02:31 PM
^ Yeah. Many bought the album several times (and those who didn't even like it bought it once). >.<
I hope she charts in the top 100 on Billboard at least..
Xcellerator
Mar 23 2009, 02:48 PM
I was hoping to buy more copies but all of my BestBuy/Target/Borders/Barnes & Nobles are sold out. The stores probably only put out 1-2 copies max for each store anyway. No wonder her album sales are low. Hopefully in the next few weeks, SM will start to promote more & stores will begin to stock up on her album.
Kentjr
Mar 23 2009, 03:21 PM
This sucks, I still don't see why many people are siding with SM. They really don't let there artist take this long for a darn MV to premiere and let them slip like this. If they were honestly serious about this her album would be in MANY stores by now she would already be playing on the radio and her music video would of premiered. I still don't see the light in her actually succeeding since she has already swooped soo low. Shes 68 on overall top albums on Itunes which is still really damn good but shes dropped so much so thats not good. I really hope they are doing as you guys are saying they are doing because I've pretty much given up hope. Theres only so much fans can do. :/ hopefully this tour does her some good.
Zap
Mar 23 2009, 03:23 PM
Well I went to Borders today and the sales associate verified on the computer that they do have one copy in the store. But it wasn't on the shelf. She checked in the back but couldn't find it. What a let-down.

Well I've heard that you enjoy something more if you have to wait for it, so I guess when I finally get my BoA CD I'll enjoy it way too much

But I'm still determined to buy it at the local store - it's just a matter of waiting a bit longer ... I think I can do that.
iKimshi
Mar 23 2009, 03:28 PM
i've been looking around too at my local stores and a lot of em are sold out too or dont have it

what a bummer but me and my friends plan on looking around some more this week
Kentjr
Mar 23 2009, 03:29 PM
OMFG Theres a possibility the MV Might just MIGHT premiere tonight. On BoAMusicUSA they Logged in 5 hours ago. They uploaded 1 video, and when I looked in there channel there was no other new videos. I think it might be the MV but they are hiding it until they feel like releasing it. Is it actually possible?
Edit:Nevermind false alarm I counted wrong

'
bokachu
Mar 23 2009, 03:33 PM
^
I heard someone mentioned that the MV will be shown on the big screen at WBC today.
Kentjr
Mar 23 2009, 03:58 PM
QUOTE (bokachu @ Mar 23 2009, 04:33 PM)

^
I heard someone mentioned that the MV will be shown on the big screen at WBC today.
OMGOSH REally? I hope sooo I really wanna see it!
Ayaki
Mar 23 2009, 07:21 PM
QUOTE (Xcellerator @ Mar 23 2009, 02:41 PM)

She isn't even in the top 50 overall on Amazon anymore.

#55 Overall
#33 in Rock
#46 in Pop
She's back in the Top 50:
#49 in Music
#29 in Music > Rock
#41 in Music > PopI really don't understand. There is no way that the album sold that bad, I mean, not even 4225?? If that's the case, then that means to get onto Amazon's Top 10 Overall in Music (BoA peaked at 8), all you have to do is sell <4200??
If you look up some of the other albums that made that Top 50 list on Amazon, their best selling position is not as high as BoA's . What is that Top 50 chart's sales based off of?
alsrudtj124
Mar 23 2009, 08:18 PM
The SidewalksTV interview was funny. "Intense, BoA!" and she replies, "That's true, I am." Cracks me up.
And as with the promtions and stuff, I'm learning to be patient and doing what I can to try to sale pitch people into buying it. I'm sure SM knows what they're doing, or they hired people who knows their stuff in the States guys. Give them SOME credit; this isn't a newbie talent agency! It's SMe we're talking about!
Zap
Mar 23 2009, 09:00 PM
I'm perplexed...when will they seriously start promoting and selling the album? When I go to the stores and they have not one copy of BoA's CD in stock, when I check the TV listings and she's not on there, when I turn on the radio and she's not on there either -- that's not what I call promotion!
music2134
Mar 23 2009, 09:37 PM
QUOTE (bokachu @ Mar 23 2009, 04:33 PM)

^
I heard someone mentioned that the MV will be shown on the big screen at WBC today.
has BoA new MV been release yet?
a548
Mar 23 2009, 11:05 PM
QUOTE (Ayaki @ Mar 23 2009, 07:21 PM)

I really don't understand. There is no way that the album sold that bad, I mean, not even 4225?? If that's the case, then that means to get onto Amazon's Top 10 Overall in Music (BoA peaked at 8), all you have to do is sell <4200??
If you look up some of the other albums that made that Top 50 list on Amazon, their best selling position is not as high as BoA's . What is that Top 50 chart's sales based off of?
Someone did a study to figure out how much one must sell to get into Amazon's rankings but this one is for books. Amazon is known as a place to buy books rather than CDs so CD sales figures would be much, much lower. I heard iTunes sales also count towards Billboard but the whole album must be purchased at once. I guess it doesn't take too much to break into the online music sales charts and BoA peaked at #8 on Amazon but she held that position for less than a whole day before going down again. We'll have to see how much copies BoA sold tomorrow.
QUOTE
Rosenthal estimates that Amazon sells over 150,000 books per day. Using that as a baseline, he has developed a chart where he plots Amazon sales rank against sales.
* The top-selling book MAY be selling as many as 3,000 copies a day.
* The 10th best selling book MAY be selling up to 650 copies a day.
* The 100th book MAY be selling up to 100 copies a day.
hero_sarang
Mar 24 2009, 04:51 AM
Anyone in the DFW area still looking for the album in stores, I managed to find one at a Barnes & Noble in Plano, but I think I reserved the only copy because when I picked it up, I checked the shelves and there weren't any others. Last time I checked Border's website the Borders in Uptown Dallas said "likely in stock", so you guys might want to try there.
emach
Mar 24 2009, 12:53 PM
I'm really concerned about Boa's health. She has been looking exhausted, weak and sickly lately. (Check out her latest pictures.) I don't know what's going on behind the scenes but I really hope BoA can focus on just promoting in America. BoA's got her hands full trying to make it in the US. If she keeps on flying back and forth, her health will continue to suffer, not to mention her performances.

How is she going to promote in America if she's exhausted and sick all the time?
Anyway, did anybody notice BoA is back under Jpop instead of Pop on itunes?
Joshorty
Mar 24 2009, 01:36 PM
QUOTE (emach @ Mar 24 2009, 04:53 PM)

I'm really concerned about Boa's health. She has been looking exhausted, weak and sickly lately. (Check out her latest pictures.) I don't know what's going on behind the scenes but I really hope BoA can focus on just promoting in America. BoA's got her hands full trying to make it in the US. If she keeps on flying back and forth, her health will continue to suffer, not to mention her performances.

How is she going to promote in America if she's exhausted and sick all the time?
Anyway, did anybody notice BoA is back under Jpop instead of Pop on itunes?
You're right! Gugh I doubt people will mistaken her album as J-pop but I can imagine a lot that would.. and I Did It For Love spelling is now corrected also.
Honestly I think she should just dedicate in US though she has her contract with avex to serve as well aiye...
Zap
Mar 24 2009, 01:41 PM
I agree, BoA will increase her chance of success if she just focuses on the US only during this crucial time of her debut. Once she gets popular here she can afford to visit Japan on occasion, but it's going to be much harder for her to make it here if she's constantly globe-hopping.
tee tee
Mar 24 2009, 01:42 PM
If she makes another album her label needs to plan it better next time.
Maybe she should do an album in her country and promote for a certain amount of time and then comeback to the U.S. to fully promote.
BoA_rocks_in_english
Mar 24 2009, 01:44 PM
QUOTE (tee tee @ Mar 24 2009, 02:42 PM)

If she makes another album her label needs to plan it better next time.
Maybe she should do an album in her country and promote for a certain amount of time and then comeback to the U.S. to fully promote.
Or she should work on 1 album at a time if shes workin on an english album STAY IN USA dont be traveling back and forth.
tee tee
Mar 24 2009, 01:55 PM
QUOTE (BoA_rocks_in_english @ Mar 24 2009, 01:44 PM)

Or she should work on 1 album at a time if shes workin on an english album STAY IN USA dont be traveling back and forth.
I like that idea way better.
Then if she is really successful in the U.S. would want her back in high demand. I know I would!
SO.UNCOOL™
Mar 24 2009, 02:11 PM
HDD updated the final numbers for the top 50 albums and BoA's album is nowhere in sight.
The #50 album sold about 9,000 copies so BoA's album sold about 9,000 or less in the U.S. I hope she atleast charted within the top 100 ...
Kudaranai
Mar 24 2009, 02:30 PM
Billboard charts haven't been updated yet.
SO.UNCOOL™
Mar 24 2009, 03:18 PM
Billboard updates its site on Thursday's but HDD comes out with the numbers of the top 50 on Tuesday's.
However Billboard releases an article on Wednesday's that usually include the numbers of the top 10 albums plus the albums that debuted within the top 200 so we should know BoA's position tommorow.
Joshorty
Mar 24 2009, 03:29 PM
Yeah billboard isn't as quick as HDD, which I reply on the most haha.
But ya I agree. They should let her do one album at a time. I wouldn't care if her English debut would have to delay until the middle of this year, since her Japanese activities would have (most likely) be done by then other than A-nation...
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